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Good evening. I would like to call to order the Vermillion Planning Commission meeting for today, which is June 4th, 2025. | 00:00:00 | |
Melanie, would you please call the roll Williams. | 00:00:15 | |
President Chapel, Shirley present for me. | 00:00:19 | |
Present Hammerschmidt. | 00:00:23 | |
And we have Mayor 4th over with us this evening, Tony Hilarious, building inspector, and Jeff Lucas, Council representative. | 00:00:26 | |
What did I call you? | 00:00:35 | |
Oh, I'm sorry, it says that. | 00:00:38 | |
Service director and building inspector. You do it all, Tony. | 00:00:40 | |
OK, so at the March 5th meeting, the minutes of January 8th 2025 were not able to be approved as there was not a full quorum of | 00:00:46 | |
those present at the January meeting. | 00:00:51 | |
However, this evening I believe that we do have those members. | 00:00:57 | |
Present. So first I would like to. | 00:01:02 | |
Request approval of the January 8th. | 00:01:06 | |
2025 meeting minutes. | 00:01:09 | |
OK, Shirley, yes. | 00:01:16 | |
Chapel. | 00:01:18 | |
Williams, abstain. | 00:01:19 | |
Hammersmith. | 00:01:21 | |
Carmine abstain. | 00:01:23 | |
Motion carries for January. | 00:01:24 | |
The next thing on the agenda is the approval of the previous meeting minutes of March 5th. | 00:01:27 | |
As there was number April or May meeting. | 00:01:33 | |
Umm, and unfortunately, I believe that we do not have. | 00:01:37 | |
Full quorum of those present at the March meeting. | 00:01:40 | |
I'll still call the world so we can have the motion on record, but I believe that. | 00:01:44 | |
OK, go ahead. | 00:01:49 | |
Do we have a motion for the? | 00:01:52 | |
Approval of March minutes. | 00:01:55 | |
I want to approve. | 00:01:57 | |
Shirley. | 00:02:04 | |
Of State Chapel, William. | 00:02:05 | |
Yes. | 00:02:09 | |
Enrichment for me. | 00:02:10 | |
Abstain. That motion fails and we will not be able to propose then. It's just due to lack of board members. | 00:02:12 | |
So we will need to try to approve that at July's meeting. | 00:02:18 | |
OK. Enrique, there is no correspondence. | 00:02:23 | |
Or anything from the audience at this point. | 00:02:27 | |
And and the next thing on our agenda is under old business, which is a discussion on the cannabis zoning regulation. | 00:02:30 | |
And I'd like to just take a minute to turn that over to the mayor. | 00:02:38 | |
Kind of summarize that for us. | 00:02:42 | |
Thank you, Madam Chair. | 00:02:44 | |
I'd like to go over just a few things, partially for the record. | 00:02:47 | |
And also the Central Valley. | 00:02:50 | |
Italian policies and also the benefit of our new membership. | 00:02:52 | |
Which is a. | 00:02:57 | |
Last year, possibly two years. | 00:02:58 | |
Council is addressing the issue of. | 00:03:01 | |
Candidates for the city? Really. | 00:03:03 | |
One of the first things they wanted to know is. | 00:03:05 | |
We'll do that. At least. We'll let's ask. | 00:03:07 | |
So through the hot potato. | 00:03:12 | |
At that time though, they didn't promptly asked me. | 00:03:15 | |
And also, the state of Ohio is set to go back. | 00:03:19 | |
Rehash the. | 00:03:23 | |
Be a cannabis. | 00:03:26 | |
Codes for the state of Ohio. | 00:03:27 | |
So. | 00:03:30 | |
Just put it on hold for a while, making a recommendation wherever go. | 00:03:35 | |
Until after we find out. | 00:03:38 | |
What are we going to do so? | 00:03:40 | |
The moratorium is now expired. | 00:03:43 | |
The state of Ohio has. | 00:03:45 | |
Settle on this legislation. | 00:03:47 | |
The Planning Commission has, since it's now back in business of making recommendations, has asked the administration. | 00:03:51 | |
What we might think would be a place to go, if I remember correctly. | 00:03:57 | |
So. | 00:04:03 | |
Service Director Glorious. | 00:04:04 | |
Put her yeah. | 00:04:06 | |
And said OK, no. | 00:04:08 | |
Let's follow live. | 00:04:09 | |
For the dispensaries. | 00:04:11 | |
We recommend. | 00:04:14 | |
The B1B. | 00:04:15 | |
But he won't be free. | 00:04:17 | |
Which is basically along Liberty Ave. | 00:04:20 | |
Pretty much West of. | 00:04:23 | |
I'm sorry, east of 3 million. | 00:04:25 | |
I traveled with most of the. | 00:04:28 | |
Commercial strip is. | 00:04:30 | |
We would also recommend. | 00:04:34 | |
For the sake of cultivation. | 00:04:35 | |
Or for commercial growing? | 00:04:37 | |
We recommend. | 00:04:39 | |
They be. | 00:04:40 | |
I1I2 and I3 which are all three industrial area. | 00:04:43 | |
There is the discussion. | 00:04:48 | |
In Ohio, you're probably not going to grow much cannabis out foods. | 00:04:50 | |
That's almost all of the other cover somewhere. | 00:04:54 | |
So. | 00:04:56 | |
That's what we recommend. | 00:04:57 | |
Whatever the Planning Commission takes from said. | 00:04:59 | |
Decides to recommend on Rd. | 00:05:03 | |
We'll go to the law director. | 00:05:04 | |
For review. | 00:05:06 | |
The law director will check and can state legislation as far as. | 00:05:08 | |
Whether it's within. | 00:05:11 | |
Permitted all acquireances of. | 00:05:13 | |
Your school. | 00:05:15 | |
That'll be considered at that time. | 00:05:18 | |
But the job asked of you tonight by council was to simply. | 00:05:20 | |
Where would you put it in general? | 00:05:24 | |
And recognize you that once, whatever your recommendation is. | 00:05:26 | |
After it goes through the locker. | 00:05:30 | |
Goes back up to council. | 00:05:31 | |
Council could just say, let's just. | 00:05:34 | |
Or they might say. | 00:05:37 | |
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it a little differently. | 00:05:39 | |
Once you send up a recommendation, your job. | 00:05:43 | |
But Tony Juarez the service records brought at least. | 00:05:49 | |
People were sight repaired like pink. | 00:05:54 | |
Be able to see exactly where he was talking about. | 00:05:57 | |
And he would be a good one to ask any questions you have about those zones too. | 00:06:00 | |
OK. | 00:06:04 | |
Thank you. | 00:06:08 | |
So. | 00:06:13 | |
I guess a couple of questions. | 00:06:16 | |
So once we make our recommendation and then it goes. | 00:06:20 | |
Obviously the law director will review it and then it goes to council. | 00:06:23 | |
And then if Council decides to proceed. | 00:06:27 | |
I'm assuming they'll create an ordinance and will ensure that in the ordinance. | 00:06:31 | |
That it's specifically spelled out in. | 00:06:36 | |
So that it's conducive with the state of Ohio legislation. | 00:06:39 | |
Whatever they do. | 00:06:43 | |
The water. | 00:06:45 | |
OK. | 00:06:47 | |
Like I say once. | 00:06:49 | |
And it would be specific, stating that it can't be within the 500 feet of schools, libraries, parks. | 00:06:54 | |
Discussion on real estate. | 00:07:05 | |
I think that's all with the legislation, right? I just, I know it specifically states that. | 00:07:09 | |
Some cities will. | 00:07:15 | |
Make that note in the ordinance. | 00:07:17 | |
So, and I guess my other question would be. | 00:07:20 | |
So we can. | 00:07:24 | |
There is the potential to have a recommendation that we do not. | 00:07:25 | |
Want to do this at all for the city of Vermont? | 00:07:29 | |
Correct. | 00:07:35 | |
Just like when she's not there. | 00:07:38 | |
Make a recommendation? No, I meant like our recommendation would be that we don't want. | 00:07:40 | |
Cannabis dispensaries or growers within the city limits. I'm asking if that's. | 00:07:46 | |
You can recommend whatever you want. | 00:07:52 | |
OK. | 00:07:56 | |
Have we had applicants? | 00:07:58 | |
I I. | 00:08:02 | |
Were those inquiries for? | 00:08:08 | |
Retail dispensaries or were they for? | 00:08:10 | |
So I think there were. | 00:08:16 | |
The licenses and things for the cultivators about that. | 00:08:18 | |
They're mostly when the whole. | 00:08:21 | |
So. | 00:08:31 | |
Tommy. | 00:08:42 | |
I just want to make a recommendation. | 00:08:46 | |
I think that. | 00:08:50 | |
Be true and possible, I'm sorry. | 00:08:54 | |
Better location for. | 00:08:57 | |
And close to the island. | 00:09:04 | |
That one is close to that office school, but also neighborhoods. | 00:09:05 | |
So I think. | 00:09:11 | |
I too I agree better. | 00:09:13 | |
There is a swap land in the eye tree. | 00:09:15 | |
That is owned by Metro Parts. | 00:09:18 | |
Cars, it's not necessarily. | 00:09:21 | |
But you know, as long as. | 00:09:23 | |
They stayed at 500 feet or whatever it is. | 00:09:25 | |
There. | 00:09:28 | |
Does the community utilize that? | 00:09:35 | |
Lay unknown by the Metro parks within that space. | 00:09:39 | |
What it is right now? | 00:09:43 | |
But that's part of the section that's in the. | 00:09:47 | |
I3 correct. | 00:09:50 | |
That is correct. | 00:09:51 | |
What questions does the Commission have? | 00:09:58 | |
I guess mine's Morgan. | 00:10:02 | |
Observation of FC. | 00:10:03 | |
Cultivators. | 00:10:05 | |
Separate that. | 00:10:09 | |
The issue of its. | 00:10:10 | |
House of Greenhouse and. | 00:10:12 | |
You know there's one on. | 00:10:14 | |
Berlin. | 00:10:16 | |
And. | 00:10:18 | |
And I think we've all seen the glow from across the lake. | 00:10:20 | |
And that's what that those are. Those are monstrous. So that's. | 00:10:24 | |
When I looked in order to set up. | 00:10:29 | |
Level level 1 and level 2 cultivators. The level ones are limited that. | 00:10:31 | |
25,000 square feet in the level. | 00:10:36 | |
Trees are 3000 square foot. | 00:10:39 | |
That's much smaller, but still. | 00:10:42 | |
Light pollution would be. | 00:10:44 | |
Significant consideration for any. | 00:10:46 | |
Any allowance of that and would be. | 00:10:51 | |
For me and. | 00:10:54 | |
Push it to the I2 which is. | 00:10:55 | |
Furthest away from any residential. | 00:10:58 | |
Well, I. | 00:11:02 | |
Was on the right, down the street from the. | 00:11:04 | |
Yeah, it's weird. | 00:11:07 | |
I mean, what do we know about growers? | 00:11:10 | |
I mean is it a 24 hour operation? I mean you mentioned? | 00:11:12 | |
Light pollution. | 00:11:17 | |
Is there noise pollution? Is there traffic? | 00:11:19 | |
What do we know about that? | 00:11:23 | |
Type of operation. | 00:11:26 | |
I mean, Green Circle Growers is a pretty major operation. There's a lot of traffic, a lot of. | 00:11:34 | |
Noise point. | 00:11:41 | |
So that's pretty expensive. | 00:11:43 | |
As with any other part. | 00:11:47 | |
If somebody came in saying I want to do this here like. | 00:11:50 | |
Yeah. | 00:11:56 | |
Traffic Studies. | 00:11:59 | |
Ladies and family as well, yeah. | 00:12:01 | |
Sure. As far as a revenue base for Vermillion? | 00:12:04 | |
What types of positive impact do you anticipate? | 00:12:11 | |
I've talked. | 00:12:17 | |
Is often a shrug like. | 00:12:22 | |
Yeah, yeah, we get some. | 00:12:24 | |
Because that was part of the legislation that was just approved. | 00:12:32 | |
10% tax. | 00:12:36 | |
There was initially, that was all the revenue that was going to come back to the municipality. | 00:12:38 | |
That was going to be removed and I think that that was. | 00:12:45 | |
When that was shot. | 00:12:48 | |
Passed in January, or May I anyway, whenever that was passed. | 00:12:50 | |
That. | 00:12:55 | |
That 36% of the 10% I think is what still comes back to the municipality so. | 00:12:57 | |
Whatever. | 00:13:08 | |
Yes, we're going to do. | 00:13:17 | |
Just a moment. | 00:13:21 | |
Yes. | 00:13:28 | |
As far as a grower? | 00:13:41 | |
Sure. | 00:13:59 | |
Highly legally. | 00:14:01 | |
I think I like the I2. | 00:14:05 | |
Best personally only because that I3 does contain. | 00:14:15 | |
Metro Parks land and we don't know if that will be developed for communities down the road. | 00:14:18 | |
Potentially. | 00:14:25 | |
Sure, but then it would be next to, you know, if we recommend I3, it would be next to it. | 00:14:34 | |
And that has been a park, so. | 00:14:41 | |
And and as far as the sensories, I don't know how. | 00:14:46 | |
And I should feel about. | 00:14:49 | |
But zone for that. | 00:14:51 | |
I was possible. | 00:14:54 | |
Yeah. | 00:14:59 | |
I mean as far as. | 00:15:01 | |
Cities around us. | 00:15:03 | |
I know Amherst has one right next to Starbucks now. | 00:15:05 | |
Secondly, that their addresses will ring, so I'm not sure if it's understood. | 00:15:09 | |
That's what I was. I wasn't sure. I was not compared. | 00:15:13 | |
Whether or not. | 00:15:16 | |
What other? | 00:15:18 | |
Amherst here on. | 00:15:19 | |
What what they might be doing with similar sizes? | 00:15:21 | |
Pier One. | 00:15:25 | |
Oh, you're right. | 00:15:28 | |
I don't see many cars there whenever I'm over there. Same as the one Lorraine, you don't see many cars. | 00:15:31 | |
I first see those 7. | 00:15:40 | |
So that would be the. | 00:15:45 | |
And not. | 00:15:48 | |
Between the railroad. | 00:15:50 | |
Sure. And that's what is that is that. | 00:15:55 | |
3. | 00:15:57 | |
So it'll be 3 piece of. | 00:16:09 | |
Become sure. | 00:16:20 | |
As we get to. | 00:16:25 | |
Last week is going to be frank and we're we're pretty close. | 00:16:27 | |
I looked. I looked up to see if there were any. | 00:16:31 | |
Statistics on, you know, crime rates and things like that in terms of what that. | 00:16:34 | |
And nothing is really conclusive. There is some evidence. | 00:16:40 | |
What I've saw online. | 00:16:44 | |
For that's worth that. | 00:16:46 | |
You know, property crimes in the area of the store seem to. | 00:16:48 | |
Increase in some cases. | 00:16:52 | |
And I know that. | 00:16:55 | |
When Cleveland went in and they. | 00:16:56 | |
Their City Council. | 00:16:58 | |
Put it in. This is probably something. | 00:17:00 | |
You know, wording the ordinance in terms of the type of security and. | 00:17:02 | |
That put more language. | 00:17:07 | |
To improve the security. | 00:17:09 | |
Access to the. | 00:17:11 | |
The Dispensary. | 00:17:12 | |
Chair. | 00:17:14 | |
So. | 00:17:16 | |
I'm not sure what it really, in my opinion, what it really. | 00:17:20 | |
Brings to. | 00:17:22 | |
Per million, if there's one that's 10 minutes away. | 00:17:24 | |
To the to the east. | 00:17:27 | |
And I agree with. | 00:17:29 | |
That location, but I'm not just not in my mind. | 00:17:33 | |
Totally sold that it really brings a whole lot to our time. Well that it would be interesting to know. Like what? | 00:17:37 | |
If our recommendation was. | 00:17:45 | |
You know it's not approved. | 00:17:48 | |
Not to have it in the town of a million and what, what revenue are we really missing out? | 00:17:50 | |
I wish I had more numbers around. | 00:17:54 | |
That information to make a good decision. | 00:17:57 | |
Sure. | 00:18:05 | |
You know. | 00:18:10 | |
Kind of reminds me of. | 00:18:11 | |
About 20 years ago when people wanted it. | 00:18:14 | |
Put sex shops in cities and cities tried to. | 00:18:17 | |
Say no, nobody can. | 00:18:21 | |
All the cities got sued. | 00:18:23 | |
The planning commission's of those cities had been. | 00:18:26 | |
Put locations where they could be. | 00:18:29 | |
State courts ruled that we had to do that site. | 00:18:32 | |
I'm assuming it'd be similar to that. | 00:18:36 | |
Somebody could sue this anything. | 00:18:39 | |
The voters voted for. | 00:18:41 | |
You didn't allow it anywhere. | 00:18:43 | |
That's a violation. Well, that question is no one answer. And what's the other of that, right? | 00:18:45 | |
So there's litigation. | 00:18:50 | |
Litigation works, you know, that's something that that would. | 00:18:53 | |
So you have to almost allow someone. | 00:18:58 | |
If you want to avoid them. | 00:19:00 | |
That kind of was worth question is no one answer. | 00:19:02 | |
I was not really practically an answer. | 00:19:06 | |
If we have been to be can make it. | 00:19:11 | |
So it's only a push of the beat. | 00:19:14 | |
Not the whole. | 00:19:16 | |
I mean, it says in the legislation that some cities just continue a mortgage volume on it. | 00:19:20 | |
To not allow it, but that's why I brought that up in the very beginning. | 00:19:25 | |
Don't close. | 00:19:29 | |
That's fast sounding essentially. Yeah, I understand. Right. Yeah, you're saying regularly that's at the point where it's not. | 00:19:31 | |
I mean, here's what I'm thinking of is. | 00:19:37 | |
Wouldn't be awful if all of a sudden we ended up with one of these one. | 00:19:42 | |
Yeah, 1 Liberty along that strip there because different people thought it was a good venture to get into. | 00:19:49 | |
You know, really feeling like. | 00:19:56 | |
You're in town. | 00:20:01 | |
It would be awful also just, I think just as awful as if. | 00:20:03 | |
All the industrial. | 00:20:07 | |
The town was full of growers. | 00:20:09 | |
Because they don't generate much in the way of. | 00:20:13 | |
Well, that my thoughts, my thought with that is very few employees, employee densities not. | 00:20:17 | |
Very high, you know. | 00:20:22 | |
Future revenue. | 00:20:26 | |
Right, let's take it. | 00:20:27 | |
Real estate from something else that might have. | 00:20:30 | |
Great, much higher grade. | 00:20:34 | |
Yeah, I don't. I don't think you can. | 00:20:37 | |
Limited to a certain section of his own district. | 00:20:40 | |
Because some districts are either. This is a. | 00:20:43 | |
I don't think. | 00:20:48 | |
Justin Johnson I don't think you could just. | 00:20:53 | |
Limited to a certain portion of those. | 00:20:56 | |
So what we have to do is recommend. | 00:20:59 | |
Creating. | 00:21:01 | |
A new zoning district. | 00:21:03 | |
That or you just do that. | 00:21:04 | |
Before support, the ordinance would have a density requirement, so that it would basically. | 00:21:06 | |
In that area that you're referring to has a lot of. | 00:21:17 | |
Housing, I mean, there's. | 00:21:20 | |
People's houses are there, so then that's going to have to come. | 00:21:22 | |
But how close it is to the there is but. | 00:21:26 | |
There's also houses for. | 00:21:30 | |
So once we have a business that. | 00:21:36 | |
Let's say we have this business that wants to come to Vermilion. | 00:21:39 | |
Who proves that? Like where? | 00:21:43 | |
It's the first right of approving. | 00:21:46 | |
You know their name and everything else that they want to do and. | 00:21:48 | |
So we'll not come back to city planning. | 00:22:01 | |
Unless it's building. | 00:22:05 | |
Unless they build in the middle of the middle. | 00:22:07 | |
Yeah. | 00:22:09 | |
Sure. | 00:22:11 | |
Like video videos? | 00:22:15 | |
But what is permitted? | 00:22:16 | |
In a certain home district. | 00:22:19 | |
As long as they follow the words. | 00:22:21 | |
Can't really. | 00:22:24 | |
Sure. | 00:22:27 | |
So. | 00:22:31 | |
Maybe 4 or. | 00:22:37 | |
It couldn't do. It could happen. | 00:22:40 | |
Four things that the bees have right now, but. | 00:22:42 | |
But it's just a lot plus this. | 00:22:45 | |
We're doing it for the purpose of this. | 00:22:47 | |
What do you think, Council? | 00:22:52 | |
Well, just a couple of thoughts. | 00:22:55 | |
The barriers to entry have been into is pretty high the on security. | 00:22:59 | |
That they go into the building of one of those buildings, there's 1/4 of struck Columbus or I'm sorry. | 00:23:05 | |
Strong 250. | 00:23:10 | |
It's right off Main Street across from. | 00:23:12 | |
A nice restaurant. | 00:23:15 | |
It I went in there as it was being built there's. | 00:23:18 | |
So there's going to, it's going to be highly regulated. | 00:23:24 | |
So you're just not going to get just somebody who says I'm going to sell. | 00:23:27 | |
Cigarettes or. | 00:23:31 | |
Tobacco. And then I wanted to marijuana too. | 00:23:32 | |
So there's going to be a lot of. | 00:23:35 | |
Regulation. | 00:23:37 | |
The one there is a chain. | 00:23:43 | |
So it's it's. | 00:23:44 | |
It's very nice. | 00:23:47 | |
Beautiful building, there are some pretty high just. | 00:23:49 | |
Permitting costs from the state as well, right, application fees. And then there's a I know for the cultivators there are like | 00:23:51 | |
200,000 a year just to. | 00:23:55 | |
Yeah. | 00:24:01 | |
So. | 00:24:02 | |
Much. | 00:24:08 | |
There was actually there used to be 3 and it has to be a button shut down. | 00:24:08 | |
Without that help first. | 00:24:13 | |
And now it's just the one. | 00:24:15 | |
Well, there's the one in next Starbucks in Crumble cookie Press from Target. | 00:24:23 | |
Off point or rain or two? | 00:24:34 | |
Or something like that. I believe there's one also in. | 00:24:38 | |
Huron. | 00:24:43 | |
I'll try I'll try each Rd. | 00:24:46 | |
I'm an industrial park. | 00:24:49 | |
So you know. | 00:24:53 | |
You don't see a lot. | 00:25:01 | |
People rushing to know into a test. | 00:25:03 | |
Who was acting did not do what they finally do. | 00:25:07 | |
Like I said, some person. | 00:25:10 | |
The legislative. | 00:25:14 | |
We really. I can't believe that. | 00:25:16 | |
Seriously. | 00:25:21 | |
Let me just say I. | 00:25:24 | |
I don't think. | 00:25:27 | |
That if you. | 00:25:29 | |
Recommended. | 00:25:30 | |
If you recommend the Council, you want to create a whole new zone just for this. | 00:25:33 | |
I don't think Council. | 00:25:40 | |
I think they're going to. | 00:25:44 | |
You know this is committed. | 00:25:47 | |
This thing? Do you like to put it? | 00:25:49 | |
Say. | 00:25:51 | |
I mean, we weren't trying to revise our zoning. | 00:25:57 | |
A couple of years ago. | 00:26:00 | |
Where are we at with that project anyway? | 00:26:02 | |
The company we. | 00:26:06 | |
Contracted to do that. | 00:26:08 | |
Twist for us. | 00:26:10 | |
Is that something that the city is still considering? | 00:26:19 | |
As far as revising our zoning. | 00:26:22 | |
OK. | 00:26:24 | |
Chance to try. | 00:26:38 | |
Control. | 00:26:40 | |
There's no. | 00:26:45 | |
Chance not to. So I mean we need to really be a little more. | 00:26:50 | |
Horse riding Model 1. | 00:26:56 | |
Right. I mean, can we make multiple recommendations like if we can't have this, can we have this? | 00:26:57 | |
In place. | 00:27:06 | |
First serious to study so. | 00:27:13 | |
If you want to continue this. | 00:27:19 | |
What else would we? | 00:27:29 | |
Loan, I mean. | 00:27:30 | |
Right. | 00:27:34 | |
I guess are we? | 00:27:37 | |
Inclined to improve one another. | 00:27:40 | |
Throwing that out there, for instance, maybe we. | 00:27:43 | |
Recommended that dispensaries are OK, but not necessarily. | 00:27:47 | |
Growers based on our zoning or? | 00:27:51 | |
They might not be able to do that, but. | 00:27:57 | |
I think if we looked at the. | 00:28:00 | |
Area. | 00:28:02 | |
Purple, hairy and. | 00:28:03 | |
But the growth is far enough away from the city that. | 00:28:05 | |
I don't have no problem with that. | 00:28:10 | |
It would be my recommendation that be the only one we. | 00:28:12 | |
Consider as I too. | 00:28:16 | |
Support. | 00:28:19 | |
It's only the notion. | 00:28:22 | |
That would be cultivated. Oh, yeah. | 00:28:26 | |
Limited. | 00:28:29 | |
I2. | 00:28:31 | |
Limited to I2 only. | 00:28:33 | |
Is there a second? | 00:28:41 | |
Let's take a vote on that. | 00:28:45 | |
For me. | 00:28:47 | |
Yes, Cameron Schmidt. | 00:28:48 | |
William, Yes, Chapel. | 00:28:50 | |
Shirley yes. | 00:28:53 | |
Motion carried. And that's to recommend to Council. | 00:28:55 | |
Yes, just specific to the cultivators. | 00:28:58 | |
I. | 00:29:03 | |
So then the next topic is dispensaries. | 00:29:06 | |
What would be our recommendation? I think. | 00:29:11 | |
They were my first party. | 00:29:15 | |
East of the railroad bridge, so B3. | 00:29:21 | |
For now, to be 4, that city needs to adjust the zoning. | 00:29:24 | |
Let's double. Let's double check that. | 00:29:33 | |
There's there's before already. | 00:29:42 | |
There is. | 00:29:44 | |
It's just a little darker. | 00:29:46 | |
Breast. | 00:29:49 | |
I'm not sure where it's at. | 00:29:56 | |
Doesn't show up here. | 00:29:59 | |
Yes, there's somebody. | 00:30:00 | |
Motor Service. | 00:30:15 | |
The highway gas stations. | 00:30:19 | |
There may not be anything. | 00:30:27 | |
I'm saying from here. | 00:30:38 | |
This way, this is the bridge you want to come over. This is Keith. | 00:30:41 | |
You start to feel tough. | 00:30:46 | |
That's. | 00:30:54 | |
Testing with the phone. | 00:30:55 | |
There is a lot of. | 00:30:58 | |
There's a lot I've worked for, yeah. | 00:31:01 | |
It's all about products. | 00:31:10 | |
Heroes so it. | 00:31:13 | |
And you're hoping time this way? | 00:31:16 | |
You know, versus coming back that way. | 00:31:19 | |
Just because that's so industrial. | 00:31:24 | |
Asked the. | 00:31:34 | |
Yeah, repair. | 00:31:41 | |
The auto parts from that old lady. | 00:31:46 | |
Market storage, yeah, there. | 00:31:52 | |
This is probably get less Catholic than. | 00:31:56 | |
Yeah, that would be a perfect spot. | 00:32:05 | |
The neighborhood. | 00:32:08 | |
Yeah. | 00:32:17 | |
OK, so. | 00:32:30 | |
Is there any further discussion from? | 00:32:32 | |
Commission. | 00:32:35 | |
Regarding. | 00:32:37 | |
A recommendation to Council. | 00:32:39 | |
For zoning for dispensaries. | 00:32:41 | |
Before we. | 00:32:44 | |
Have a motion. | 00:32:48 | |
Thank you. | 00:32:53 | |
So if I understand correctly. | 00:32:56 | |
The recommendation from city planning would be that we. | 00:32:59 | |
Create a new zoning. | 00:33:04 | |
Which would be B5. | 00:33:06 | |
Which would be. | 00:33:09 | |
Located somewhere in the B3 area past. | 00:33:13 | |
The railroad bridge east of the railroad bridge. | 00:33:17 | |
Your motion is to convert all of these three. | 00:33:28 | |
East of the bridge to a zoning. | 00:33:31 | |
Which allows all of these resistant D3 but also. | 00:33:36 | |
Based on the premise that you cannot. | 00:33:45 | |
Restrict within his only coda. | 00:33:47 | |
This is my location that would be. The reason why we are specifically trying to create AD 5 is because we want it to be in a | 00:33:50 | |
certain. | 00:33:55 | |
Location. | 00:33:59 | |
Of the B3 area. | 00:34:02 | |
I mean. | 00:34:04 | |
We were sort of like. | 00:34:07 | |
Proven that. | 00:34:10 | |
Yeah, wrong. | 00:34:13 | |
We're making violence. | 00:34:15 | |
Of approving that. | 00:34:27 | |
And the site. | 00:34:29 | |
You'll be 1. | 00:34:36 | |
I would not recommend. | 00:34:39 | |
V1. | 00:34:41 | |
The other. | 00:34:44 | |
Yeah. | 00:34:50 | |
And I. | 00:34:56 | |
The truck passes next to a nursing home. | 00:34:58 | |
I don't know that that's appropriate. | 00:35:01 | |
Necessarily. | 00:35:04 | |
So safety and security standpoint. | 00:35:07 | |
We have the Eastern. | 00:35:23 | |
At some point it's. | 00:35:28 | |
I'm not going to skip that, I don't think. | 00:35:30 | |
I think I'll understand. | 00:35:33 | |
What was that chat? | 00:35:36 | |
Motion to to adjust the city zoning. | 00:35:48 | |
B3 east of the. | 00:35:56 | |
Railroad bridge. | 00:35:59 | |
To the new zoning. | 00:36:00 | |
Allowing all of these three. | 00:36:02 | |
Requirements. | 00:36:06 | |
Adding in. | 00:36:09 | |
Newport stretches. | 00:36:12 | |
Report, Missouri. | 00:36:14 | |
Williams Yes. | 00:36:21 | |
Karine. Yes. Chapel. Shirley, yes. Motion carried. | 00:36:24 | |
OK, alright. | 00:36:31 | |
We do not have any new business. | 00:36:33 | |
Good evening. The only thing I wanted to mention prior to adjournment was that our next meeting is scheduled for July 2nd. | 00:36:35 | |
And due to proximity to the July 4th holiday in the past, to ensure we have a quorum, we've moved that to July 9th. | 00:36:43 | |
To the following week, which would be July 9th. | 00:36:51 | |
What are the concerns? | 00:36:54 | |
The Commission or. | 00:36:57 | |
Does everybody think they'll be? | 00:37:00 | |
Here on July 2nd. | 00:37:01 | |
I'll be here about SO. | 00:37:09 | |
Anybody want to be here July 2nd? | 00:37:15 | |
I prefer the knife as well. | 00:37:29 | |
Yeah. | 00:37:33 | |
OK, so it sounds like consensus is the nice one. | 00:37:34 | |
OK, so the next meeting will be July 9th. | 00:37:38 | |
At 7:00 PM. | 00:37:42 | |
And then at this time, I will adjourn the meeting. | 00:37:45 | |
Thank you everyone. | 00:37:48 |
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Good evening. I would like to call to order the Vermillion Planning Commission meeting for today, which is June 4th, 2025. | 00:00:00 | |
Melanie, would you please call the roll Williams. | 00:00:15 | |
President Chapel, Shirley present for me. | 00:00:19 | |
Present Hammerschmidt. | 00:00:23 | |
And we have Mayor 4th over with us this evening, Tony Hilarious, building inspector, and Jeff Lucas, Council representative. | 00:00:26 | |
What did I call you? | 00:00:35 | |
Oh, I'm sorry, it says that. | 00:00:38 | |
Service director and building inspector. You do it all, Tony. | 00:00:40 | |
OK, so at the March 5th meeting, the minutes of January 8th 2025 were not able to be approved as there was not a full quorum of | 00:00:46 | |
those present at the January meeting. | 00:00:51 | |
However, this evening I believe that we do have those members. | 00:00:57 | |
Present. So first I would like to. | 00:01:02 | |
Request approval of the January 8th. | 00:01:06 | |
2025 meeting minutes. | 00:01:09 | |
OK, Shirley, yes. | 00:01:16 | |
Chapel. | 00:01:18 | |
Williams, abstain. | 00:01:19 | |
Hammersmith. | 00:01:21 | |
Carmine abstain. | 00:01:23 | |
Motion carries for January. | 00:01:24 | |
The next thing on the agenda is the approval of the previous meeting minutes of March 5th. | 00:01:27 | |
As there was number April or May meeting. | 00:01:33 | |
Umm, and unfortunately, I believe that we do not have. | 00:01:37 | |
Full quorum of those present at the March meeting. | 00:01:40 | |
I'll still call the world so we can have the motion on record, but I believe that. | 00:01:44 | |
OK, go ahead. | 00:01:49 | |
Do we have a motion for the? | 00:01:52 | |
Approval of March minutes. | 00:01:55 | |
I want to approve. | 00:01:57 | |
Shirley. | 00:02:04 | |
Of State Chapel, William. | 00:02:05 | |
Yes. | 00:02:09 | |
Enrichment for me. | 00:02:10 | |
Abstain. That motion fails and we will not be able to propose then. It's just due to lack of board members. | 00:02:12 | |
So we will need to try to approve that at July's meeting. | 00:02:18 | |
OK. Enrique, there is no correspondence. | 00:02:23 | |
Or anything from the audience at this point. | 00:02:27 | |
And and the next thing on our agenda is under old business, which is a discussion on the cannabis zoning regulation. | 00:02:30 | |
And I'd like to just take a minute to turn that over to the mayor. | 00:02:38 | |
Kind of summarize that for us. | 00:02:42 | |
Thank you, Madam Chair. | 00:02:44 | |
I'd like to go over just a few things, partially for the record. | 00:02:47 | |
And also the Central Valley. | 00:02:50 | |
Italian policies and also the benefit of our new membership. | 00:02:52 | |
Which is a. | 00:02:57 | |
Last year, possibly two years. | 00:02:58 | |
Council is addressing the issue of. | 00:03:01 | |
Candidates for the city? Really. | 00:03:03 | |
One of the first things they wanted to know is. | 00:03:05 | |
We'll do that. At least. We'll let's ask. | 00:03:07 | |
So through the hot potato. | 00:03:12 | |
At that time though, they didn't promptly asked me. | 00:03:15 | |
And also, the state of Ohio is set to go back. | 00:03:19 | |
Rehash the. | 00:03:23 | |
Be a cannabis. | 00:03:26 | |
Codes for the state of Ohio. | 00:03:27 | |
So. | 00:03:30 | |
Just put it on hold for a while, making a recommendation wherever go. | 00:03:35 | |
Until after we find out. | 00:03:38 | |
What are we going to do so? | 00:03:40 | |
The moratorium is now expired. | 00:03:43 | |
The state of Ohio has. | 00:03:45 | |
Settle on this legislation. | 00:03:47 | |
The Planning Commission has, since it's now back in business of making recommendations, has asked the administration. | 00:03:51 | |
What we might think would be a place to go, if I remember correctly. | 00:03:57 | |
So. | 00:04:03 | |
Service Director Glorious. | 00:04:04 | |
Put her yeah. | 00:04:06 | |
And said OK, no. | 00:04:08 | |
Let's follow live. | 00:04:09 | |
For the dispensaries. | 00:04:11 | |
We recommend. | 00:04:14 | |
The B1B. | 00:04:15 | |
But he won't be free. | 00:04:17 | |
Which is basically along Liberty Ave. | 00:04:20 | |
Pretty much West of. | 00:04:23 | |
I'm sorry, east of 3 million. | 00:04:25 | |
I traveled with most of the. | 00:04:28 | |
Commercial strip is. | 00:04:30 | |
We would also recommend. | 00:04:34 | |
For the sake of cultivation. | 00:04:35 | |
Or for commercial growing? | 00:04:37 | |
We recommend. | 00:04:39 | |
They be. | 00:04:40 | |
I1I2 and I3 which are all three industrial area. | 00:04:43 | |
There is the discussion. | 00:04:48 | |
In Ohio, you're probably not going to grow much cannabis out foods. | 00:04:50 | |
That's almost all of the other cover somewhere. | 00:04:54 | |
So. | 00:04:56 | |
That's what we recommend. | 00:04:57 | |
Whatever the Planning Commission takes from said. | 00:04:59 | |
Decides to recommend on Rd. | 00:05:03 | |
We'll go to the law director. | 00:05:04 | |
For review. | 00:05:06 | |
The law director will check and can state legislation as far as. | 00:05:08 | |
Whether it's within. | 00:05:11 | |
Permitted all acquireances of. | 00:05:13 | |
Your school. | 00:05:15 | |
That'll be considered at that time. | 00:05:18 | |
But the job asked of you tonight by council was to simply. | 00:05:20 | |
Where would you put it in general? | 00:05:24 | |
And recognize you that once, whatever your recommendation is. | 00:05:26 | |
After it goes through the locker. | 00:05:30 | |
Goes back up to council. | 00:05:31 | |
Council could just say, let's just. | 00:05:34 | |
Or they might say. | 00:05:37 | |
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it a little differently. | 00:05:39 | |
Once you send up a recommendation, your job. | 00:05:43 | |
But Tony Juarez the service records brought at least. | 00:05:49 | |
People were sight repaired like pink. | 00:05:54 | |
Be able to see exactly where he was talking about. | 00:05:57 | |
And he would be a good one to ask any questions you have about those zones too. | 00:06:00 | |
OK. | 00:06:04 | |
Thank you. | 00:06:08 | |
So. | 00:06:13 | |
I guess a couple of questions. | 00:06:16 | |
So once we make our recommendation and then it goes. | 00:06:20 | |
Obviously the law director will review it and then it goes to council. | 00:06:23 | |
And then if Council decides to proceed. | 00:06:27 | |
I'm assuming they'll create an ordinance and will ensure that in the ordinance. | 00:06:31 | |
That it's specifically spelled out in. | 00:06:36 | |
So that it's conducive with the state of Ohio legislation. | 00:06:39 | |
Whatever they do. | 00:06:43 | |
The water. | 00:06:45 | |
OK. | 00:06:47 | |
Like I say once. | 00:06:49 | |
And it would be specific, stating that it can't be within the 500 feet of schools, libraries, parks. | 00:06:54 | |
Discussion on real estate. | 00:07:05 | |
I think that's all with the legislation, right? I just, I know it specifically states that. | 00:07:09 | |
Some cities will. | 00:07:15 | |
Make that note in the ordinance. | 00:07:17 | |
So, and I guess my other question would be. | 00:07:20 | |
So we can. | 00:07:24 | |
There is the potential to have a recommendation that we do not. | 00:07:25 | |
Want to do this at all for the city of Vermont? | 00:07:29 | |
Correct. | 00:07:35 | |
Just like when she's not there. | 00:07:38 | |
Make a recommendation? No, I meant like our recommendation would be that we don't want. | 00:07:40 | |
Cannabis dispensaries or growers within the city limits. I'm asking if that's. | 00:07:46 | |
You can recommend whatever you want. | 00:07:52 | |
OK. | 00:07:56 | |
Have we had applicants? | 00:07:58 | |
I I. | 00:08:02 | |
Were those inquiries for? | 00:08:08 | |
Retail dispensaries or were they for? | 00:08:10 | |
So I think there were. | 00:08:16 | |
The licenses and things for the cultivators about that. | 00:08:18 | |
They're mostly when the whole. | 00:08:21 | |
So. | 00:08:31 | |
Tommy. | 00:08:42 | |
I just want to make a recommendation. | 00:08:46 | |
I think that. | 00:08:50 | |
Be true and possible, I'm sorry. | 00:08:54 | |
Better location for. | 00:08:57 | |
And close to the island. | 00:09:04 | |
That one is close to that office school, but also neighborhoods. | 00:09:05 | |
So I think. | 00:09:11 | |
I too I agree better. | 00:09:13 | |
There is a swap land in the eye tree. | 00:09:15 | |
That is owned by Metro Parts. | 00:09:18 | |
Cars, it's not necessarily. | 00:09:21 | |
But you know, as long as. | 00:09:23 | |
They stayed at 500 feet or whatever it is. | 00:09:25 | |
There. | 00:09:28 | |
Does the community utilize that? | 00:09:35 | |
Lay unknown by the Metro parks within that space. | 00:09:39 | |
What it is right now? | 00:09:43 | |
But that's part of the section that's in the. | 00:09:47 | |
I3 correct. | 00:09:50 | |
That is correct. | 00:09:51 | |
What questions does the Commission have? | 00:09:58 | |
I guess mine's Morgan. | 00:10:02 | |
Observation of FC. | 00:10:03 | |
Cultivators. | 00:10:05 | |
Separate that. | 00:10:09 | |
The issue of its. | 00:10:10 | |
House of Greenhouse and. | 00:10:12 | |
You know there's one on. | 00:10:14 | |
Berlin. | 00:10:16 | |
And. | 00:10:18 | |
And I think we've all seen the glow from across the lake. | 00:10:20 | |
And that's what that those are. Those are monstrous. So that's. | 00:10:24 | |
When I looked in order to set up. | 00:10:29 | |
Level level 1 and level 2 cultivators. The level ones are limited that. | 00:10:31 | |
25,000 square feet in the level. | 00:10:36 | |
Trees are 3000 square foot. | 00:10:39 | |
That's much smaller, but still. | 00:10:42 | |
Light pollution would be. | 00:10:44 | |
Significant consideration for any. | 00:10:46 | |
Any allowance of that and would be. | 00:10:51 | |
For me and. | 00:10:54 | |
Push it to the I2 which is. | 00:10:55 | |
Furthest away from any residential. | 00:10:58 | |
Well, I. | 00:11:02 | |
Was on the right, down the street from the. | 00:11:04 | |
Yeah, it's weird. | 00:11:07 | |
I mean, what do we know about growers? | 00:11:10 | |
I mean is it a 24 hour operation? I mean you mentioned? | 00:11:12 | |
Light pollution. | 00:11:17 | |
Is there noise pollution? Is there traffic? | 00:11:19 | |
What do we know about that? | 00:11:23 | |
Type of operation. | 00:11:26 | |
I mean, Green Circle Growers is a pretty major operation. There's a lot of traffic, a lot of. | 00:11:34 | |
Noise point. | 00:11:41 | |
So that's pretty expensive. | 00:11:43 | |
As with any other part. | 00:11:47 | |
If somebody came in saying I want to do this here like. | 00:11:50 | |
Yeah. | 00:11:56 | |
Traffic Studies. | 00:11:59 | |
Ladies and family as well, yeah. | 00:12:01 | |
Sure. As far as a revenue base for Vermillion? | 00:12:04 | |
What types of positive impact do you anticipate? | 00:12:11 | |
I've talked. | 00:12:17 | |
Is often a shrug like. | 00:12:22 | |
Yeah, yeah, we get some. | 00:12:24 | |
Because that was part of the legislation that was just approved. | 00:12:32 | |
10% tax. | 00:12:36 | |
There was initially, that was all the revenue that was going to come back to the municipality. | 00:12:38 | |
That was going to be removed and I think that that was. | 00:12:45 | |
When that was shot. | 00:12:48 | |
Passed in January, or May I anyway, whenever that was passed. | 00:12:50 | |
That. | 00:12:55 | |
That 36% of the 10% I think is what still comes back to the municipality so. | 00:12:57 | |
Whatever. | 00:13:08 | |
Yes, we're going to do. | 00:13:17 | |
Just a moment. | 00:13:21 | |
Yes. | 00:13:28 | |
As far as a grower? | 00:13:41 | |
Sure. | 00:13:59 | |
Highly legally. | 00:14:01 | |
I think I like the I2. | 00:14:05 | |
Best personally only because that I3 does contain. | 00:14:15 | |
Metro Parks land and we don't know if that will be developed for communities down the road. | 00:14:18 | |
Potentially. | 00:14:25 | |
Sure, but then it would be next to, you know, if we recommend I3, it would be next to it. | 00:14:34 | |
And that has been a park, so. | 00:14:41 | |
And and as far as the sensories, I don't know how. | 00:14:46 | |
And I should feel about. | 00:14:49 | |
But zone for that. | 00:14:51 | |
I was possible. | 00:14:54 | |
Yeah. | 00:14:59 | |
I mean as far as. | 00:15:01 | |
Cities around us. | 00:15:03 | |
I know Amherst has one right next to Starbucks now. | 00:15:05 | |
Secondly, that their addresses will ring, so I'm not sure if it's understood. | 00:15:09 | |
That's what I was. I wasn't sure. I was not compared. | 00:15:13 | |
Whether or not. | 00:15:16 | |
What other? | 00:15:18 | |
Amherst here on. | 00:15:19 | |
What what they might be doing with similar sizes? | 00:15:21 | |
Pier One. | 00:15:25 | |
Oh, you're right. | 00:15:28 | |
I don't see many cars there whenever I'm over there. Same as the one Lorraine, you don't see many cars. | 00:15:31 | |
I first see those 7. | 00:15:40 | |
So that would be the. | 00:15:45 | |
And not. | 00:15:48 | |
Between the railroad. | 00:15:50 | |
Sure. And that's what is that is that. | 00:15:55 | |
3. | 00:15:57 | |
So it'll be 3 piece of. | 00:16:09 | |
Become sure. | 00:16:20 | |
As we get to. | 00:16:25 | |
Last week is going to be frank and we're we're pretty close. | 00:16:27 | |
I looked. I looked up to see if there were any. | 00:16:31 | |
Statistics on, you know, crime rates and things like that in terms of what that. | 00:16:34 | |
And nothing is really conclusive. There is some evidence. | 00:16:40 | |
What I've saw online. | 00:16:44 | |
For that's worth that. | 00:16:46 | |
You know, property crimes in the area of the store seem to. | 00:16:48 | |
Increase in some cases. | 00:16:52 | |
And I know that. | 00:16:55 | |
When Cleveland went in and they. | 00:16:56 | |
Their City Council. | 00:16:58 | |
Put it in. This is probably something. | 00:17:00 | |
You know, wording the ordinance in terms of the type of security and. | 00:17:02 | |
That put more language. | 00:17:07 | |
To improve the security. | 00:17:09 | |
Access to the. | 00:17:11 | |
The Dispensary. | 00:17:12 | |
Chair. | 00:17:14 | |
So. | 00:17:16 | |
I'm not sure what it really, in my opinion, what it really. | 00:17:20 | |
Brings to. | 00:17:22 | |
Per million, if there's one that's 10 minutes away. | 00:17:24 | |
To the to the east. | 00:17:27 | |
And I agree with. | 00:17:29 | |
That location, but I'm not just not in my mind. | 00:17:33 | |
Totally sold that it really brings a whole lot to our time. Well that it would be interesting to know. Like what? | 00:17:37 | |
If our recommendation was. | 00:17:45 | |
You know it's not approved. | 00:17:48 | |
Not to have it in the town of a million and what, what revenue are we really missing out? | 00:17:50 | |
I wish I had more numbers around. | 00:17:54 | |
That information to make a good decision. | 00:17:57 | |
Sure. | 00:18:05 | |
You know. | 00:18:10 | |
Kind of reminds me of. | 00:18:11 | |
About 20 years ago when people wanted it. | 00:18:14 | |
Put sex shops in cities and cities tried to. | 00:18:17 | |
Say no, nobody can. | 00:18:21 | |
All the cities got sued. | 00:18:23 | |
The planning commission's of those cities had been. | 00:18:26 | |
Put locations where they could be. | 00:18:29 | |
State courts ruled that we had to do that site. | 00:18:32 | |
I'm assuming it'd be similar to that. | 00:18:36 | |
Somebody could sue this anything. | 00:18:39 | |
The voters voted for. | 00:18:41 | |
You didn't allow it anywhere. | 00:18:43 | |
That's a violation. Well, that question is no one answer. And what's the other of that, right? | 00:18:45 | |
So there's litigation. | 00:18:50 | |
Litigation works, you know, that's something that that would. | 00:18:53 | |
So you have to almost allow someone. | 00:18:58 | |
If you want to avoid them. | 00:19:00 | |
That kind of was worth question is no one answer. | 00:19:02 | |
I was not really practically an answer. | 00:19:06 | |
If we have been to be can make it. | 00:19:11 | |
So it's only a push of the beat. | 00:19:14 | |
Not the whole. | 00:19:16 | |
I mean, it says in the legislation that some cities just continue a mortgage volume on it. | 00:19:20 | |
To not allow it, but that's why I brought that up in the very beginning. | 00:19:25 | |
Don't close. | 00:19:29 | |
That's fast sounding essentially. Yeah, I understand. Right. Yeah, you're saying regularly that's at the point where it's not. | 00:19:31 | |
I mean, here's what I'm thinking of is. | 00:19:37 | |
Wouldn't be awful if all of a sudden we ended up with one of these one. | 00:19:42 | |
Yeah, 1 Liberty along that strip there because different people thought it was a good venture to get into. | 00:19:49 | |
You know, really feeling like. | 00:19:56 | |
You're in town. | 00:20:01 | |
It would be awful also just, I think just as awful as if. | 00:20:03 | |
All the industrial. | 00:20:07 | |
The town was full of growers. | 00:20:09 | |
Because they don't generate much in the way of. | 00:20:13 | |
Well, that my thoughts, my thought with that is very few employees, employee densities not. | 00:20:17 | |
Very high, you know. | 00:20:22 | |
Future revenue. | 00:20:26 | |
Right, let's take it. | 00:20:27 | |
Real estate from something else that might have. | 00:20:30 | |
Great, much higher grade. | 00:20:34 | |
Yeah, I don't. I don't think you can. | 00:20:37 | |
Limited to a certain section of his own district. | 00:20:40 | |
Because some districts are either. This is a. | 00:20:43 | |
I don't think. | 00:20:48 | |
Justin Johnson I don't think you could just. | 00:20:53 | |
Limited to a certain portion of those. | 00:20:56 | |
So what we have to do is recommend. | 00:20:59 | |
Creating. | 00:21:01 | |
A new zoning district. | 00:21:03 | |
That or you just do that. | 00:21:04 | |
Before support, the ordinance would have a density requirement, so that it would basically. | 00:21:06 | |
In that area that you're referring to has a lot of. | 00:21:17 | |
Housing, I mean, there's. | 00:21:20 | |
People's houses are there, so then that's going to have to come. | 00:21:22 | |
But how close it is to the there is but. | 00:21:26 | |
There's also houses for. | 00:21:30 | |
So once we have a business that. | 00:21:36 | |
Let's say we have this business that wants to come to Vermilion. | 00:21:39 | |
Who proves that? Like where? | 00:21:43 | |
It's the first right of approving. | 00:21:46 | |
You know their name and everything else that they want to do and. | 00:21:48 | |
So we'll not come back to city planning. | 00:22:01 | |
Unless it's building. | 00:22:05 | |
Unless they build in the middle of the middle. | 00:22:07 | |
Yeah. | 00:22:09 | |
Sure. | 00:22:11 | |
Like video videos? | 00:22:15 | |
But what is permitted? | 00:22:16 | |
In a certain home district. | 00:22:19 | |
As long as they follow the words. | 00:22:21 | |
Can't really. | 00:22:24 | |
Sure. | 00:22:27 | |
So. | 00:22:31 | |
Maybe 4 or. | 00:22:37 | |
It couldn't do. It could happen. | 00:22:40 | |
Four things that the bees have right now, but. | 00:22:42 | |
But it's just a lot plus this. | 00:22:45 | |
We're doing it for the purpose of this. | 00:22:47 | |
What do you think, Council? | 00:22:52 | |
Well, just a couple of thoughts. | 00:22:55 | |
The barriers to entry have been into is pretty high the on security. | 00:22:59 | |
That they go into the building of one of those buildings, there's 1/4 of struck Columbus or I'm sorry. | 00:23:05 | |
Strong 250. | 00:23:10 | |
It's right off Main Street across from. | 00:23:12 | |
A nice restaurant. | 00:23:15 | |
It I went in there as it was being built there's. | 00:23:18 | |
So there's going to, it's going to be highly regulated. | 00:23:24 | |
So you're just not going to get just somebody who says I'm going to sell. | 00:23:27 | |
Cigarettes or. | 00:23:31 | |
Tobacco. And then I wanted to marijuana too. | 00:23:32 | |
So there's going to be a lot of. | 00:23:35 | |
Regulation. | 00:23:37 | |
The one there is a chain. | 00:23:43 | |
So it's it's. | 00:23:44 | |
It's very nice. | 00:23:47 | |
Beautiful building, there are some pretty high just. | 00:23:49 | |
Permitting costs from the state as well, right, application fees. And then there's a I know for the cultivators there are like | 00:23:51 | |
200,000 a year just to. | 00:23:55 | |
Yeah. | 00:24:01 | |
So. | 00:24:02 | |
Much. | 00:24:08 | |
There was actually there used to be 3 and it has to be a button shut down. | 00:24:08 | |
Without that help first. | 00:24:13 | |
And now it's just the one. | 00:24:15 | |
Well, there's the one in next Starbucks in Crumble cookie Press from Target. | 00:24:23 | |
Off point or rain or two? | 00:24:34 | |
Or something like that. I believe there's one also in. | 00:24:38 | |
Huron. | 00:24:43 | |
I'll try I'll try each Rd. | 00:24:46 | |
I'm an industrial park. | 00:24:49 | |
So you know. | 00:24:53 | |
You don't see a lot. | 00:25:01 | |
People rushing to know into a test. | 00:25:03 | |
Who was acting did not do what they finally do. | 00:25:07 | |
Like I said, some person. | 00:25:10 | |
The legislative. | 00:25:14 | |
We really. I can't believe that. | 00:25:16 | |
Seriously. | 00:25:21 | |
Let me just say I. | 00:25:24 | |
I don't think. | 00:25:27 | |
That if you. | 00:25:29 | |
Recommended. | 00:25:30 | |
If you recommend the Council, you want to create a whole new zone just for this. | 00:25:33 | |
I don't think Council. | 00:25:40 | |
I think they're going to. | 00:25:44 | |
You know this is committed. | 00:25:47 | |
This thing? Do you like to put it? | 00:25:49 | |
Say. | 00:25:51 | |
I mean, we weren't trying to revise our zoning. | 00:25:57 | |
A couple of years ago. | 00:26:00 | |
Where are we at with that project anyway? | 00:26:02 | |
The company we. | 00:26:06 | |
Contracted to do that. | 00:26:08 | |
Twist for us. | 00:26:10 | |
Is that something that the city is still considering? | 00:26:19 | |
As far as revising our zoning. | 00:26:22 | |
OK. | 00:26:24 | |
Chance to try. | 00:26:38 | |
Control. | 00:26:40 | |
There's no. | 00:26:45 | |
Chance not to. So I mean we need to really be a little more. | 00:26:50 | |
Horse riding Model 1. | 00:26:56 | |
Right. I mean, can we make multiple recommendations like if we can't have this, can we have this? | 00:26:57 | |
In place. | 00:27:06 | |
First serious to study so. | 00:27:13 | |
If you want to continue this. | 00:27:19 | |
What else would we? | 00:27:29 | |
Loan, I mean. | 00:27:30 | |
Right. | 00:27:34 | |
I guess are we? | 00:27:37 | |
Inclined to improve one another. | 00:27:40 | |
Throwing that out there, for instance, maybe we. | 00:27:43 | |
Recommended that dispensaries are OK, but not necessarily. | 00:27:47 | |
Growers based on our zoning or? | 00:27:51 | |
They might not be able to do that, but. | 00:27:57 | |
I think if we looked at the. | 00:28:00 | |
Area. | 00:28:02 | |
Purple, hairy and. | 00:28:03 | |
But the growth is far enough away from the city that. | 00:28:05 | |
I don't have no problem with that. | 00:28:10 | |
It would be my recommendation that be the only one we. | 00:28:12 | |
Consider as I too. | 00:28:16 | |
Support. | 00:28:19 | |
It's only the notion. | 00:28:22 | |
That would be cultivated. Oh, yeah. | 00:28:26 | |
Limited. | 00:28:29 | |
I2. | 00:28:31 | |
Limited to I2 only. | 00:28:33 | |
Is there a second? | 00:28:41 | |
Let's take a vote on that. | 00:28:45 | |
For me. | 00:28:47 | |
Yes, Cameron Schmidt. | 00:28:48 | |
William, Yes, Chapel. | 00:28:50 | |
Shirley yes. | 00:28:53 | |
Motion carried. And that's to recommend to Council. | 00:28:55 | |
Yes, just specific to the cultivators. | 00:28:58 | |
I. | 00:29:03 | |
So then the next topic is dispensaries. | 00:29:06 | |
What would be our recommendation? I think. | 00:29:11 | |
They were my first party. | 00:29:15 | |
East of the railroad bridge, so B3. | 00:29:21 | |
For now, to be 4, that city needs to adjust the zoning. | 00:29:24 | |
Let's double. Let's double check that. | 00:29:33 | |
There's there's before already. | 00:29:42 | |
There is. | 00:29:44 | |
It's just a little darker. | 00:29:46 | |
Breast. | 00:29:49 | |
I'm not sure where it's at. | 00:29:56 | |
Doesn't show up here. | 00:29:59 | |
Yes, there's somebody. | 00:30:00 | |
Motor Service. | 00:30:15 | |
The highway gas stations. | 00:30:19 | |
There may not be anything. | 00:30:27 | |
I'm saying from here. | 00:30:38 | |
This way, this is the bridge you want to come over. This is Keith. | 00:30:41 | |
You start to feel tough. | 00:30:46 | |
That's. | 00:30:54 | |
Testing with the phone. | 00:30:55 | |
There is a lot of. | 00:30:58 | |
There's a lot I've worked for, yeah. | 00:31:01 | |
It's all about products. | 00:31:10 | |
Heroes so it. | 00:31:13 | |
And you're hoping time this way? | 00:31:16 | |
You know, versus coming back that way. | 00:31:19 | |
Just because that's so industrial. | 00:31:24 | |
Asked the. | 00:31:34 | |
Yeah, repair. | 00:31:41 | |
The auto parts from that old lady. | 00:31:46 | |
Market storage, yeah, there. | 00:31:52 | |
This is probably get less Catholic than. | 00:31:56 | |
Yeah, that would be a perfect spot. | 00:32:05 | |
The neighborhood. | 00:32:08 | |
Yeah. | 00:32:17 | |
OK, so. | 00:32:30 | |
Is there any further discussion from? | 00:32:32 | |
Commission. | 00:32:35 | |
Regarding. | 00:32:37 | |
A recommendation to Council. | 00:32:39 | |
For zoning for dispensaries. | 00:32:41 | |
Before we. | 00:32:44 | |
Have a motion. | 00:32:48 | |
Thank you. | 00:32:53 | |
So if I understand correctly. | 00:32:56 | |
The recommendation from city planning would be that we. | 00:32:59 | |
Create a new zoning. | 00:33:04 | |
Which would be B5. | 00:33:06 | |
Which would be. | 00:33:09 | |
Located somewhere in the B3 area past. | 00:33:13 | |
The railroad bridge east of the railroad bridge. | 00:33:17 | |
Your motion is to convert all of these three. | 00:33:28 | |
East of the bridge to a zoning. | 00:33:31 | |
Which allows all of these resistant D3 but also. | 00:33:36 | |
Based on the premise that you cannot. | 00:33:45 | |
Restrict within his only coda. | 00:33:47 | |
This is my location that would be. The reason why we are specifically trying to create AD 5 is because we want it to be in a | 00:33:50 | |
certain. | 00:33:55 | |
Location. | 00:33:59 | |
Of the B3 area. | 00:34:02 | |
I mean. | 00:34:04 | |
We were sort of like. | 00:34:07 | |
Proven that. | 00:34:10 | |
Yeah, wrong. | 00:34:13 | |
We're making violence. | 00:34:15 | |
Of approving that. | 00:34:27 | |
And the site. | 00:34:29 | |
You'll be 1. | 00:34:36 | |
I would not recommend. | 00:34:39 | |
V1. | 00:34:41 | |
The other. | 00:34:44 | |
Yeah. | 00:34:50 | |
And I. | 00:34:56 | |
The truck passes next to a nursing home. | 00:34:58 | |
I don't know that that's appropriate. | 00:35:01 | |
Necessarily. | 00:35:04 | |
So safety and security standpoint. | 00:35:07 | |
We have the Eastern. | 00:35:23 | |
At some point it's. | 00:35:28 | |
I'm not going to skip that, I don't think. | 00:35:30 | |
I think I'll understand. | 00:35:33 | |
What was that chat? | 00:35:36 | |
Motion to to adjust the city zoning. | 00:35:48 | |
B3 east of the. | 00:35:56 | |
Railroad bridge. | 00:35:59 | |
To the new zoning. | 00:36:00 | |
Allowing all of these three. | 00:36:02 | |
Requirements. | 00:36:06 | |
Adding in. | 00:36:09 | |
Newport stretches. | 00:36:12 | |
Report, Missouri. | 00:36:14 | |
Williams Yes. | 00:36:21 | |
Karine. Yes. Chapel. Shirley, yes. Motion carried. | 00:36:24 | |
OK, alright. | 00:36:31 | |
We do not have any new business. | 00:36:33 | |
Good evening. The only thing I wanted to mention prior to adjournment was that our next meeting is scheduled for July 2nd. | 00:36:35 | |
And due to proximity to the July 4th holiday in the past, to ensure we have a quorum, we've moved that to July 9th. | 00:36:43 | |
To the following week, which would be July 9th. | 00:36:51 | |
What are the concerns? | 00:36:54 | |
The Commission or. | 00:36:57 | |
Does everybody think they'll be? | 00:37:00 | |
Here on July 2nd. | 00:37:01 | |
I'll be here about SO. | 00:37:09 | |
Anybody want to be here July 2nd? | 00:37:15 | |
I prefer the knife as well. | 00:37:29 | |
Yeah. | 00:37:33 | |
OK, so it sounds like consensus is the nice one. | 00:37:34 | |
OK, so the next meeting will be July 9th. | 00:37:38 | |
At 7:00 PM. | 00:37:42 | |
And then at this time, I will adjourn the meeting. | 00:37:45 | |
Thank you everyone. | 00:37:48 |